Or plow plane in the US.
Here is a tool that doesn't get much love anymore. True, some where rather showy and expensive, often used as presentation piece. But for the usual working man, they may not sport all the bells and whistles, be a tad cankerous to adjust the fence straight and parallel to the body and stay there !
Nonetheless, they are still useful in your modern tool kit. Especially if you ever try to cut a groove with a dado set on a table saw on smaller pieces and would like to keep all your fingers intact.
They are quiet, efficient and yes, do not takes much time to cut your grooves. Because they are set rank. Hint, the cutting end is rather stout.
So lets have a look at common ailments and how to address them.
Disclosure, this blog is the result of a back and forth conversation via Messenger with a friend who just acquired one.
There are wood and metal plow planes, for this entry we will be focusing on the traditional wooden plows.
They originally came with a graduated set of 8 tapered cutters. Most often, they will be found in the wild with either one single blade already installed and the set long separated and MIA, or none at all.
Can we get replacement blades? YES, singles or sets often shows up in tool mongers inventory. Expect to pay about US $100 for a complete match set. Expensive? As with all antique tools, supply is limited and spare parts will cost you more than what you pay for the tool. And if you are lucky you can sometimes spot them in misc. box of hardware at flea markets sales. Often mixed in with chisels and screwdrivers. I always rummage thru those and found the occasional good chisels without a handle for peanuts (pocket changes) And yes the odd plow cutter. Hint look for a groove in the back.
HOWEVER not all irons will fit your plows. First they are tapered. That meant that unless you have the right taper in conjunction with the tapered wedge and the ensemble fit nice and tight in the tool body, we have a problem. You may not be able to chinch the blade down securely or be able to adjust out enough blade to cut. Remember we want to set it up for a rank cut (thick shavings)
Three solutions: 1- Make a new wedge (easier) or 2- Replace the iron. Easiest, if you have another, or
3 - Modify the iron to suit (not recommended).
Another issue, is the centering slot in the back of the iron. These were hand cuts and it shows.
Common issues: The slot is not straight up and down, the slot does not match the plane sole (metal plate on side, call the skate) or is offset enough to cause problems. Iron should fit the skate and be centered
More often than not the slot is too narrow to fit on the sole plate. That last part is crucial to ensure a good solid fit that will not be deflected in use. I repeat, for proper operation the slot must engage the sole piece. That is actually easy to correct, more latter.
If your plane did not came with a set of matching 8 graduated cutters (as they are most often found) you can get by with an Harlequin set. Meaning the set is made up of various makers, which may or may not fit correctly. Don't panic...yet :-)
An easy way to address the centering problem with the iron slot not engaging the skate, is to simply file the skate in a small V shape. CAUTION, go easy, keep it centered by using the same amount of filing on both sides. It DOES NOT NEED to be wide nor coming to a point (sharp) and you DO NOT want to shorten the skate. We just want to taper it down to engage the V slot in the cutter. Stop often to check your progress. The skate does not need to fully seat inside the groove, it just need to register. You can also widen the groove in the back of the cutter with a saw file (triangular) In both case remove just enough to make it register.
Of course its would be easier to remove the skate first, but caution, the screws may be really rusted in place and they may snap on you. A bad thing :-( Shoot them with a penetrant liquid, let it sit for a while, scratch the slots clean and make sure to use a proper fit in screwdriver. If it does not budge STOP leave it alone and regroup.
Other issues to look at are the body. Is it flat or curved? It must be flat. Similar for the metal sole plate (skate) and the fence. Note that the body sides are not too critical, they can have a small hump or hollow, but we want to spot the bowed ones.
How is the fence adjusted and locked in place? There are no shortage of patented ideas to solve the vexing problem of getting the fence to move straight with out skewing and to lock it down once set.
Once unlocked, the fence should move smoothly without much wobble. Often times, the arm get lodged solidly inside the plane body since they are a tight fit to start with in a bid to minimized the play. Years and years of improper storage and the wood swell and shrink causing it to jam.
My Okines had its arms pretty well stuck for years, managed to take it out yesterday. Its been acclimated to my shop for years by now and I run a dehumidifier near my plane till in the summer.
Next take a look at the arms that hold the fence. Often times they are wobbly and can twist.
Must make them secured. But I will caution you about wanting to glue down the arms to the fence.
I never seen them glued, just secured by either a rivet or a screw. You want them tight, but guessing without being glued down and secured via a single fastener allows them to flex a bit as needed without cracking as the body and arms swell and shrink. You also have a cross grain situation if gluing.
How do you adjust it without being skewed? Simply place a piece of wood or what have you of the correct width against the plane body and snug up the fence to it. Easy Peasy. I usually used a piece of wood since it very easy to trim to the correct width.
Then there is the often damaged means of locking the fence down.
Damaged thread on spindle and or wood nuts, missing or improper replacement wedges
(as in the G Davis above) etc,
There is not much we can do about damaged threads, but as long as the nut can move in and out without binding, we should be good.
Next looks at the locking nuts.
If left alone nut would had cracked apart and probably would had been long discarded, rendering the plane useless. If you want to try this type of repair caution do not force whatever material too tight, you run the risk of making it worse, or break it apart. Smaller checked cracks can be secured with glue, either crazy glue or epoxy depending on crack width, but be careful not to get glues on the threads and take the nut out first, you do not want to glue it to the arms.
Missing wedge or wrong replacement. You are going to have to make a new one. Don't sweat it, its not that complicated. If you want to be period correct for the plane, take a look at the original finial at the end of the wedge, or if too damaged or missing, simply look it up on line, chances are you will find pictures of your plane. The wedge shape at the end often helps denote a particular maker and period.
The actual angle of the wedge are typically between 5ish and 7 degrees ( in my humble experiments). But remember that the wedge AND the blade make up the final taper.
Armed with this knowledge, make a graduated set of taper shaped in thin plywood . Says something like 5.5, 6. 6.5, 7 degrees, that would help you get the angle of the tapered mortise. But remember that space is occupied by BOTH the wedge AND the blade.
Another way to guesstimate it close, is to shove in a wad of aluminum foil. Carefully remove and you get the shape. That is what I use to figured out the taper of socket chisels. And writing this I think I`m overdue to make myself a set of graduated templates. I have a few planes in the cue awaiting new wedges :-)
Be prepared to make a few adjustments, but remember to keep the surfaces straight and level. On moulding planes you have to sometimes account for a titled mortise, but on the Plows, these are rather straight forward (pun intended). If you never tried making wedges, try on a Plow first, lot simpler.
The other critical part of the wedge is at the end. When shaped correctly it help curve out and expel the shavings on the side. Look at the pics above by the angle levels, they are all shaped different. Since it is sitting much higher than say a molding plane, it would not be too fuzzy and trap shavings under.
These 3 following pictures are the wedge from the G.Davis plane. It was originally broken in two, long ago, someone attempt a repair by nailing it back together and using hide glue...and made a mess. Not sure about the wood species, but it is rather hard and brittle. The end is polished to a glassy shine.
So when I got it, I try to excavated most of the nail, but I had to leave a piece of it. I made sure nothing interfered and glue the pieces back (3 and a bit) with epoxy. Its working fine. I retained the original.
Once you have assessed its condition, look up the maker's marks on it and do some research to get some idea of its rarity or not, BEFORE attempting any corrective actions. If its a common one (Auburn and Greenfield models shown), I will not hesitate to do some more drastic repairs. Some are really, worth a lot of money, I would then temper my enthusiasm for repairs and preserved as much as I can. Even if that mean, I cannot fix it without... Lots of plow planes were presentation pieces. Congrats you just made your own :-)
Good news is next time you will know what to look for before purchasing and know how to address common issues.
Great post Bob! Thank you. Will be very useful to restore my new acquired plow plane.
ReplyDeleteYou are very welcome Bazz, glad I could help. It was a nice needed distraction :-)
ReplyDeleteHere's one plough I won at a Woodcentral benefit auction eight years ago:
ReplyDeleteUnion Hardware No. 245 Boxwood Plough Plane, with Irons
DESCRIPTION
This auction is for a Hermon Chapin (Union Factory) screw-arm plough plane with matched set of 8 irons. The irons are marked John Moseley & Son, London, numbered 1 through 8, and are all from a single owner (J. Sims). The plane is solid boxwood. The irons fit the plane correctly with no adjustment to the wedge--wedge is original and unaltered. The plane has some brass inlaid into the fence: the letters 'G' and 'H' (owner's initials apparently), and a cartouche. There are a few cosmetic apologies: bottom leading edge of fence has a chip out; wedge has a ding in the scooped-out section under the finial; screw-arm threads have an assortment of dings. I will call these out in the photos. None of these affect function--plane is dead-sound functionally. I have used this plough recently and it is an excellent performer.
The plane adjusts smoothly; wedge fits the irons; depth stop is smooth; nuts on arms turn smoothly and tighten securely. The screw arms on this plane will position the iron--even the 1/8" iron--as close to the fence as you want. You can plough your groove as close as you want to the edge of the board, or even cut a rough rebate to be trued with a precision rebate or shoulder plane. A screw arm plough will hold its settings faithfully until you make a change--it can't be knocked out of alignment. This is sometimes useful when you want to keep a setting until a project is done.
The plane bears the B-mark and B-wedge profile shown in American Wooden Planes, 4th Ed., pp. 83-84. Judging from the mark, the plane could have been made anytime between 1828 and 1901, when the H. Chapin/Union Factory firm was merged into a new firm, Chapin-Stephens. The Union Factory where this plane was made was located first in Pine Meadows near New Hartford, and later in New Hartford, CT.
What's in the box? Four items: The plough plane; a single-owner set of John Moseley irons, numbered 1-8 in original tattered red felt tool wrap; a new and unopened Lee Valley canvas tool wrap (as a replacement); and a maple board with test cuts for each of the 8 irons. You will need to obtain a small hammer to adjust the snecked irons and remove/set the wedge. Only a light tap is needed to seat the wedge.
ACTUAL IRON SIZES
On vintage planes, the cutting widths of irons vary from their nominal values. Here are the actual cutting widths, mic'ed and verified by test cuts in the maple board. Normally, ploughing a groove is like cutting a mortise, in that the plough iron and mortise chisel fix the width of the cut; the tenon and tongue are then sized to fit. However, I mention these actual values for those who work in precise nominal values:
1 iron: 1/8" minus 5 thousandths.
2 iron: 3/16" plus 4 thousandths.
3 iron: 1/4" minus 1/100.
4 iron: 5/16" + 1/100.
5 iron: 3/8" minus 1/64.
6 iron: 7/16" minus 4 thousandths
7 iron: 1/2" minus 1/100.
8 iron: 9/16" minus 1/64.
Here are a few links to the plane:
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Nice tip with the aluminum foil. I have a couple of molding planes that need new wedges.
ReplyDeleteThe Sylvain you refer to here is somebody else.
ReplyDeleteI have chosen this name for (woodwork related) internet because:
- it is my 6th first-name, and
- it is linked to words like silviculture, sylvestre etc.
Sylvain is (the French version of) the Latin divinity of forest. But , in cas you wander, I don't think about myself as a divinity.
In my view a plough plane is a tool to get after a #4 and a router plane but before a rebate plane and other bench planes.
Yes Sylvain, it is another Sylvain :-)
DeleteBob
Sylva is one of my family names. I do enjoy being in the forest..
DeleteActually it's Silva but you can call me Dumbass.
DeleteBeen reading the French version for too long
Some great stuff here, Bob. Thanks. You mentioned in photos of the Auburn Tool plane that the fence was skewed a little bit. Was that intentional? Should a plough fence be skewed. And if so, what is the benefit?
ReplyDeleteOh no skewed fence are problems maker. Hence why i simply used a piece of wood of my desired width as a quick guide to snug up the fence straight. I mentioned it because it was apparent and something to avoid.
DeleteLike i used to say to my students years ago after decoding 32 bits instructions thru the processor circuitry and finishing by: Clear as mud ?
Bob, back in the days when we actually fixed computers by swapping small circuit boards inside the UYK-7 and AYK-502 (Canadian version of US AYK-10) Those were the days :-)
I have a 19th century polo plane. When I lay a straightedge across the bottom edges of both the front and rear skates, there are gaps. Should these two edges be parallel and have the same distance from the bottom of the plane body?
ReplyDeleteYes Steve, those two skates are effectively the sole of the plane. Hence they must line up co planar and at same height. If not you will run into problems.
ReplyDeleteBob
Wow nice plow you got there Denis. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteBob who has not been on Wood Central for a few years. Too much drama :-)
How many passes to make a groove with the Auburn?
ReplyDeleteA couple of things...
ReplyDeleteA tapered iron that is 5/16 thick can be the same taper as a 1/4 thick iron if they are different lengths. Eventually a 5/16" iron will become 1/4" thick.
The other thing is the notch in the back of the iron and the skate. The skate on all of my plow planes (just one) is a 90 degree blunt edge (45 per side). If that skate edge is sharp it will hang up on the bottom of a non-sharp groove. The edge just needs blunting enough that both sides of the skate sit on both sides of the groove.
This is touchy business filing the skate because overdoing it or failing to keep the edge in line with the bed of the iron will require more repair to the bed. The skates are on countersunk screws so they can't be tweaked into position.
Good article. I was cleaning molding planes with white vinegar and simple green a while ago, didn't have Murphy's. The wax did the most for the appearance but whatever was dark stayed dark with the vinegar of simple green. Not liking the Howard's wood feed - takes too long to dry. Butchers dries pretty quick and Renaissance on metals is also fast.
Steve
ReplyDeleteYes, obviously a 5/16 iron sharpened numerous time will go down to 1/4 and be shorter. The one I have is not a worn out 5/16, its a 1/4 thick (tapered) and full length like the others.
About the tapering of the rear skate to engage the slot in the back. Yes, we do not want to create a sharp point, just thin as little as possible to engage. As with anything I do to my tools less is more. Meaning I will try to do as little as possible to retain its original state, surfaces, parts etc. (like salvaging that almost destroyed wedge seen above)
In this case, between lightly enlarging the slot and slightly thinning the sides just enough to register is all that is required. That problem about flexing is more pronounced with the smaller size irons. Also depend on how rank and the wood species, how uses and etc. If it work as is, leave it alone. Similarly the idea of filing the rear and front skate co planar should be only done if there is not much of a deviation. Because again, only do as needed. In my case, the Greenfield does show a small misalignment but it has not caused me any problems so far. That plane is used most often with the 1/2 in iron in it. as you get down in size it will start to be more finicky...
if they are obviously bent, don`t file, there will be nothing left :-) Hope this clarify my muddy explanations.
and yap, that Howard stuff takes a while to fully dry. Which is one reason I like it, it soak deep in the wood affording more protection.
Some old dry wood really soak it in for a while.
Bob, whose BP seems to be back in the safe zone
Steve
ReplyDeleteHow many passes to cut a groove with the Auburn?
Don't know (not mine :-) but I can tell you that both G Davis and Greenfield take about the same. Of course the wood species affect it (should be straight grain), so does the sharpening of that edge and how set rank will affect. All I know is that it take me more time in maple than pine. and I set my cut shallower = more passes.
One thing we did not mention yet is the fact that the plow has no cutter ahead to scribe the cut, so can you cut dado? :-)
And incidentally that is why you want to start at the end and work backwards until you have establish the full length before taking full length stroke, which means... Yes there is a lot going on in that simple tool
Bob
In all frankness, it never cease to amaze me how all the little subtleties to be found on simple looking tools combine to make it work...or fail. So much to learn. Ill never stop learning :-)
ReplyDeleteBob
Subtleties in all planes but the less there is meeting the eye the tougher to figure out. Planes like coffin smoothers and Japanese planes have no knobs or obvious adjustments to the unfamiliar. Huge range of performance from seemingly identical tools.
ReplyDeleteI liked the Howard's OK on wood but the last I used it was to lube a plane sole and I got a 20 minute vacation that I wasn't expecting.
1/2" is a big groove. What do you usually use that for?
Bob,
ReplyDeleteThanks, as usual with your tool write ups, very informative. I have a terrible wood plow jones, almost as bad as my chisel jones. I had to go out to the shop to check and was able to find 11 wood plows ranging from simple to complex and slightly rough to beautiful works of art. All work, some easier/better than others and most are more enjoyable to use than the metal versions. As you mentioned, most came with just one cutter but I have several sets of cutters that work with most of the plows.
With your inspiration I may post a photo essay of the herd. BTW, with retirement coming up I've been of two minds, one simplify and cull to only the true users and spend my time making things and of course the other is keeping everything and enjoy rubbing on all the tools and keeping them in good shape. I'm not sure which side will win. My guess, I will just muddle along keeping everything and making a few things while occasionally wiping the dust off and sharpening the cutters as needed. Any of the three options would not be a bad life.
ken
Steve
ReplyDeleteJoinery. I used a lot of 1/2 in and 1/4 in the most. These grooves/dado/rabbet and dovetails are my goto joinery
Bob
Which brings up another fun thing. When we say 1/2 inch and 1/4 inch these are really nominal values. Their actual measures would be approximative, close enough. think forged variations, slight changes thru restorations/sharpening etc. I do not really know what are the exact measurements of my tools, could not careless, imperial or metric :-) Whichever 1/2 inch tools I start using (plane, chisel) I keep using throughout a project. Well I try to, so many choices :-)
ReplyDeleteBottom line I make part A fit Part B.
Since I use a lot ``grooves`` the plow(s) comes out to play to keep their place in the till(s)
Bob, whose assortment of Grooving tools is ....enough for the jobs at hand :-)
Oh yes Ken i very much live that dilemmas everyday in retirement :-)
ReplyDeleteBut as you said, not a bad one to be in. Yes please id love to see your herd of wood plows, sound intetesting.
Bob, who still has only 4 of them, still looking for a good affordable handled plow... just because :-)