tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post3083462393256424359..comments2024-03-28T04:13:09.738-03:00Comments on The Valley Woodworker: Bob's illustrated Type study of Bailey bench planes. Part 2 The user's models yearsValley Woodworkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-77576906031058138162023-08-18T23:01:49.585-03:002023-08-18T23:01:49.585-03:00Thanks for this. I got a stanley #4 at a resale sh...Thanks for this. I got a stanley #4 at a resale shop, for $15. It was driving me nuts trying to figure out the type.You solved the mystery, it's a 1970's plane (maroon). The handles are in excellent shape, which is why I bought it. Hope I can use them on other old planes that are better made. Still better than what they are selling for stanleys today with plastic parts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-24949979153971131332023-05-25T15:13:02.120-03:002023-05-25T15:13:02.120-03:00I have a Bailey number five, Bailey cast into the ...I have a Bailey number five, Bailey cast into the toe in front of the knob. Raised ring around the knob. April 19th of 10 patent date behind the Frog. Number five cast into the heel behind the tote. Nothing else cast into the bed , nothing behind the front knob. This should be a type 14, but has no made in USA behind the front knob, what gives?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-76360497531266527032023-02-03T17:21:03.598-04:002023-02-03T17:21:03.598-04:00correction, it's a type 9 with the sweetheart ...correction, it's a type 9 with the sweetheart logo under lever capAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-12395016447767515692023-02-03T17:11:02.720-04:002023-02-03T17:11:02.720-04:00I have a type 12 number 5 with sweetheart logo und...I have a type 12 number 5 with sweetheart logo under lever capAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-84523919450326410562021-05-26T17:26:52.672-03:002021-05-26T17:26:52.672-03:00Thank you Bob much appreciatedThank you Bob much appreciatedAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06860490372034852640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-53508348914777301402021-05-25T11:22:04.974-03:002021-05-25T11:22:04.974-03:00Finding parts for a Number 4 or any other vintage ...Finding parts for a Number 4 or any other vintage tools is always a mixed bag. Parts are in limited supply, long out of production and the demand increase as people dig them out and try to restore them.<br />So good luck finding parts and if you do, be prepared for sticker shock. Good news is No 4 and No 5 are plentiful out there. You will find it cheaper and better to get another complete plane than trying to get parts that may or may not fit depending on vintage (Type No) <br /><br />BobValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-6265300348522073592021-05-25T11:18:35.191-03:002021-05-25T11:18:35.191-03:00Probably a casting numbers, used at the foundry to...Probably a casting numbers, used at the foundry to identifies castings for various planes models.<br />My best WAG <br /><br />BobValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-51366050523281278442021-05-25T07:41:43.221-03:002021-05-25T07:41:43.221-03:00Hello I recently got a #6 now I know that it's...Hello I recently got a #6 now I know that it's a type 8 so thank you for that, mine has a small stamp on the base where the handle is the stamp is 75½ any information about this would be great. Thank youAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06860490372034852640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-64535061328865346352020-12-25T03:35:25.403-04:002020-12-25T03:35:25.403-04:00Hey bob. I'm a welding carpenter craftsman typ...Hey bob. I'm a welding carpenter craftsman type person that has fun making a decent living multiple trades knowledge. A few months back I started dragging out some old vintage tools that I had placed on the bottom shelf. Today I drug out pa Scott's (my great grandpa tabscott) old bailey no4 type. Or I think type 9 plane. I would like to restore it. My daddy would get kick out of it. And at 75 years old hes still kicking and taking names. I'm not familiar with these type planes. The ones I've used have cords and a.c. motors. This is how I end this long story------I NEED HELP GETTING SOME PARTS FOR A BAILEY NO.4 . Thanks for reading . Have a blessed day and a merry Christmas Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06851820658490871892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-2825986224637749972020-12-06T14:22:14.331-04:002020-12-06T14:22:14.331-04:00Hi Jonny
If you have the two patents date on the b...Hi Jonny<br />If you have the two patents date on the bed that is your most relevant Type No feature. The frog is only held by two flat head screw with a washer under. If they wont come off, try soaking then with WD 40 or similar penetrating's liquid to bust the rust grip.<br /><br />Just make sure to use the RIGTH size screwdriver so you got the torque and wont damages the slot<br /><br />Bob, tiring to catch up with commentsValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-67600936967668852172020-12-06T14:17:09.173-04:002020-12-06T14:17:09.173-04:00Oups, should had read more comments before answeri...Oups, should had read more comments before answering :-)<br />Yes Toby, anything is possible especially when it comes to the iron itself since they are often replaced thru the working life of the tool.<br /><br />And keep in mind that Stanley never heard of Type studies in the future, they would used up their stocks of parts as they switch over to newer models. So in effect you will often find examples that seems to have a mix of two types features but they should be closely related in time. There is no such thing as the definitive Type study, but they are all based on when the particular features is believed to first came out. Most of these types study, mine included, are based on the pioneering works of Sellens, Walter and others. These have been around since the 80s and 90s, so yes some have updated info. I try to keep mine updated but im only human :-)<br /><br />BobValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-33914561187721938072020-12-06T14:08:08.768-04:002020-12-06T14:08:08.768-04:00Hi TS Jackson
Glad you find it useful.. I started ...Hi TS Jackson<br />Glad you find it useful.. I started it years ago trying to get a better idea of some of these small changes. Words can be confusing, but a picture is worth a thousand words<br /><br />BobValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-86514452024296396022020-11-04T09:28:07.041-04:002020-11-04T09:28:07.041-04:00Hi Bob, I’m unsure of how to upload a picture to t...Hi Bob, I’m unsure of how to upload a picture to this reply but I determined the age and type of my plane by using your website and another vintage stanley flowchart.<br /><br />Regards<br /><br />TobyTsjacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14791497137637639642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-89350522830253704062020-11-03T18:22:19.584-04:002020-11-03T18:22:19.584-04:00I dunno. What did you based your Type's deter...I dunno. What did you based your Type's determination on?<br />I see no pics of your example ??<br />BobValley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-47452252861407215782020-11-03T14:39:01.968-04:002020-11-03T14:39:01.968-04:00Hi Bob,
This is a great source of info that I ref...Hi Bob,<br /><br />This is a great source of info that I refer to regularly when looking for pre type 13 planes!<br /><br />The other day I acquired a no. 4 type 13 with what I believe to be the original SW iron and also has the lever cap with nothing on the top, but the Stanley/SW logo on the underside.<br /><br />Is this something that was exclusive to the type 12 no. 5c? Or is that the only planes you’ve seen this type of lever cap on? <br /><br />I know no one would be able to say without a shadow of a doubt that mine left the factory with it, but is it impossible?<br /><br />Regards and thanks<br /><br />TobyTsjacksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14791497137637639642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-82554179347164455732020-07-16T22:59:44.035-03:002020-07-16T22:59:44.035-03:00I have a #7 That has 2 Patd dates: Mar 25 02 and A...I have a #7 That has 2 Patd dates: Mar 25 02 and Aug 19 02. The frog is not arched and has a bailey at the toe. My question is, the frog doesn't come off, can you help me identify? ThanksJonnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10700256418735986942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-44380405392305489732018-09-11T08:18:27.049-03:002018-09-11T08:18:27.049-03:00I Steve
Glad you found it useful, yes, it can be a...I Steve<br />Glad you found it useful, yes, it can be a tad confusing trying to type a plane, hence why I did this post.<br />To answer your questions: Yes you can easily replace the lateral adj lever, it is simply peened in place. Since yours is missing, half the job is done...You can use a small piece of a finish nail as a pin part to be peened.<br /><br />If you don't have the screw frog adj, its a Type 9, BUT, keep in mind that Stanley used up its parts bins before switching fully to new type. Somewhere between Type 9 and 10 they went thru a series of changes with the arch sizes. Why? Changes in casting necessitated by a different foundry? Problems in casting? Feedback improvement from users? No one seems to know it … yet … The Type 9 frogs are predominantly found with the higher arch, should not be too difficult to find (??) Check NH Plane parts, he has a store on Ebay, I often bought parts from him. Good luck and thanks for stopping by<br /><br />Bob<br />Valley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-54796328312703081862018-09-10T18:28:09.731-03:002018-09-10T18:28:09.731-03:00I am glad I found your post. I have a Stanley No 6...I am glad I found your post. I have a Stanley No 6 Type 9 plane and I was having the devil of time figuring out exactly what it was because as shown in one of your photos this has a base with the high, arched Type 10 rib but without the frog adjusting screw. Virtually all the websites which deal with this subject categorically state that if the plane has the high, arched rib it is a Type 10. They do not even discuss the frog adjusting screw. Unfortunately the lateral lever is missing form mine. I have been looking for a frog which be nearly impossible to find because to be correct it can't have the hole for the fork to screw into but has to fit the higher rib. Probably functionally the regular Type 10 will work. Do you know if the lateral adjusting lever can be replaced? Thanks. Great article. Well done!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01957580557878776350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-15952789414007204292016-07-27T13:24:27.736-03:002016-07-27T13:24:27.736-03:00As long as all the parts fit well, the sole tuned ...As long as all the parts fit well, the sole tuned up etc, newer type 19 should work just as good as the old girls.<br />Want better performance put in a matching set of iron-cap iron from LV<br /><br />Bob<br /> Valley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-83150544767404363412016-07-24T20:01:39.829-03:002016-07-24T20:01:39.829-03:00Wow, Bob - these two posts are truly a labor of lo...Wow, Bob - these two posts are truly a labor of love. Great stuff. Unfortunately for me, most of my Stanley bench planes are type 19. I can still get them to work fairly well, but then I have little to compare to either. I do have a type 5 #4 1/2 that I got from Pat Leach last year, but I'm not sure I've gotten it to work any better that the type 19's.Tiny Shop Woodworkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375332433853904113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-89904832986251203192016-07-22T21:26:17.431-03:002016-07-22T21:26:17.431-03:00Guessing you meant Type 12 to 14 :-)Guessing you meant Type 12 to 14 :-)Valley Woodworkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07322487171914484954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1627331616161641107.post-5474549870530373742016-07-22T18:57:54.058-03:002016-07-22T18:57:54.058-03:00I'll second that it was the Cheetos guy having...I'll second that it was the Cheetos guy having fun with his orange color. <br />My absolute favorite types are #2 to #4 but they are hard to find. I would be happy with anything tossed my way from the #11 on down.Ralph Boumenothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10606484453109932074noreply@blogger.com